Packaging/2020-11-11-pip-team-meeting

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Nov 11th, 2020

Participants:

• Georgia Bullen

• Pradyun Gedam

• Bernard Tyers

• Sumana Harihareswara

Agenda:

• status and blockers

  • Georgia: we’re working our way through analysis of diff. surveys, the “buy a feature”

    • we have pulled together a meeting to swap notes re: workshops for FLOSS developers to plan

    • no known blockers

    • prediction: high likelihood of submission today

  • Nicole: pushed out documentation survey and is doing interviews on that

    • no known blockers

  • Bernard: no real blockers. Working on the report

    • pip backtracking message PR - probably finished https://github.com/pypa/pip/pull/9040

      • TODO: Sumana to re-review

    • about to start: trying to get in touch with package manager maintainers, so, is changing approach to “pip in pckg mngr ecosystem” and will talk to users instead

      • TODO: Sumana to ping William Woodruff and ask him for an hour of Bernard’s time

      • TODO: Sumana to ping people who run package managers that interact/interoperate/conflict with pip stuff

        • aptitude (Debian/Ubuntu)

        • (ana)conda - done 17 Nov

        • brew/homebrew - done 17 Nov

        • dnf (Fedora)

        • pacman [used in Manjaro Linux distro] (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/pacman)

          • TODO: Sumana to ping Santiago from Arch - done 17 Nov

      • There are some other package managers where we could learn from their experience/UX/functionality

        • I’ve not spoken to them but: cargo (from research people have mentioned it’s nice)

        • ruby, bundler (https://bundler.io/)

• invoices

  • Gedam has been requested to do so

• issues that need followup

  • https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/9011

    • depends on resolvelib (Carry all incompatibilities during backtracking – #60)

    • next: Pradyun will do some test writing

  • https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/8785

    • New resolver: Failure despite correct version numbers, when extras and already-installed package are encountered together

    • next: Pradyun to do deep investigative dive

• pip 20.3 release

  • Release blockers/things we need to do first [basically all Pradyun]: (PG: wheeeeeeee)

    • 7744 – small, needs implementation.

    • 9011 – needs a test.

    • 9040 – needs re-review and merge.

    • 8785 – needs a deeper dive.

    • 8495 – needs implementation.

  • people offer help - what would be most effective is some virtual coworking time

    • Bernard is free to do this all Thurs, plus Fri morning

    • TODO: This time tomorrow would be ideal!